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can it do to unions? the law probably strengthens unions. >> if this is a right to work state, it makes it illegal for unions and employers to man tateidate that employees be part of the union or pay money to that union. >> or destroy when they have to stay afloat. one or the other. >> kagy gray is the reporter for the detroit free press and joins us now. this happened very quickly. it looks like we have not seen the end of this fight. democrats and union activists and anybody who supports the unions about finding a way to overturn this. they have three options and is to pursue a legal challenge to how the law was passed in the legislature. the second involves beating sick snyder, the governor's race that requires them to win both houses. it looks like a long shot that looks like the boast bankable bet to collect signatures equivalent to 8% to the total number of votes cast. that means 258,000 signatures. then they can get a referendum on this. is that the best bet for people to overturn this? >> it's sti
can it do to unions? the law probably strengthens unions. >> if this is a right to work state, it makes it illegal for unions and employers to man tateidate that employees be part of the union or pay money to that union. >> or destroy when they have to stay afloat. one or the other. >> kagy gray is the reporter for the detroit free press and joins us now. this happened very quickly. it looks like we have not seen the end of this fight. democrats and union activists and anybody...
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the unions hate it. will the president step in? . detroit voted for him, the unions, mr. obama is there, what is he going to do? china is here buying part of the bailed out aig, buying 123 battery company and buying american mansions. that's what happens when china has the money and we've spent all of ours. or losing money can pop up anytime. that's why she trades with the leader in mobile trading. so she's always ready to take action, no matter how wily... or weird... or wonderfully the market's behaving... which isn't rocket science. it just common sense. from ameritrade. i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holid deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fex office. >> two big stories coming together today in michigan. first off, the new right to work rules will become law tomorrow. the unions are absolutely furious out protesting yesterday and big demonstrations still to co
the unions hate it. will the president step in? . detroit voted for him, the unions, mr. obama is there, what is he going to do? china is here buying part of the bailed out aig, buying 123 battery company and buying american mansions. that's what happens when china has the money and we've spent all of ours. or losing money can pop up anytime. that's why she trades with the leader in mobile trading. so she's always ready to take action, no matter how wily... or weird... or wonderfully the...
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to a union just last year and the number of michigan workers who belong to unions down nearly 30% over the past ten years. this is fox news alert, north korea extending the window for a rocket launch in that country that the u.s. believes is a cover for a long-range ballistic missile test. the communist country's state media saying technical i shall ooze delaying the launch for the moment. greg palkot is live in london watching this all weekend, what is the latest now on monday, greg? >> reporter: hey, bill, a technical mess, that is how one expert describes to me the scene of that north korea launch cycle right now. the liftoff of that controversial multistage rocket by yeongpyeong is not going to happen now. it has been delayed maybe a week, maybe more. a new target period could be around christmas week. the initial problems have pw-pbt unseasonably cold temperatures in the area as well as snow. now they are admitting to a problem with the first stage of the rocket, that session apparently has to be replaced. last time they tried to launch something was in april, we were there, it fa
to a union just last year and the number of michigan workers who belong to unions down nearly 30% over the past ten years. this is fox news alert, north korea extending the window for a rocket launch in that country that the u.s. believes is a cover for a long-range ballistic missile test. the communist country's state media saying technical i shall ooze delaying the launch for the moment. greg palkot is live in london watching this all weekend, what is the latest now on monday, greg? >>...
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another says that we must make the union outlawed, eliminate unions on this country! and brian turner writes in and says right to work states means right to work for less. if you hear anything we're talking about tweet us. >>> we hear a lot about how people are looking for jobs, but some say manufacturers are saying that they are just frustrated with constant job openings and no one to fill those positions. cnbc's phil lebeau joins us with more on that story. phil, good morning. >> good morning. we're just outside chicago, start of the first shift here. this is where they make components like this that will go to the aerospace and electronics industries. they have 10 to 12 openings here and this is a story that we're hearing throughout the manufacturing base in the united states. take a look at how many manufacturing openings have been created over the last three years. it's gone from essentially 90,000 up to 247,000. some of those openings they seem like they're permanently open. we went down to metal technologies an auto parts supplier just out of bloomington, india
another says that we must make the union outlawed, eliminate unions on this country! and brian turner writes in and says right to work states means right to work for less. if you hear anything we're talking about tweet us. >>> we hear a lot about how people are looking for jobs, but some say manufacturers are saying that they are just frustrated with constant job openings and no one to fill those positions. cnbc's phil lebeau joins us with more on that story. phil, good morning....
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i'm a union man and i know charlie is very fondf unions. we love unions, but we want people to have the right to choose whether or not they belong to a unn. a clothes shop wherehey have to have the union and i don't think that's freedom, if you want to join the union by all means, but to make it mandatory, that seems a bit harsh. >> neil: but the unions are spinning it the other way in michigan, charles, what do you ke of that? >> and ben makes the great point. the unions feel like their back has been against the walls and have for a number of years. in michigan, this is the way we can be competitive. liste everyone talks about the great comeback in detroit in the auto sector, that's a mirage. michigan's in trouble, detroit is in trouble and this is how they compete on the national scale, ultimately, a global scale. >> neil: dagen? >> versignificant that this is happening and by the way, this is just the right to not have toay union dues i you don't want to belong to a union first and foremost. >> neil: and you got that. >> very significant
i'm a union man and i know charlie is very fondf unions. we love unions, but we want people to have the right to choose whether or not they belong to a unn. a clothes shop wherehey have to have the union and i don't think that's freedom, if you want to join the union by all means, but to make it mandatory, that seems a bit harsh. >> neil: but the unions are spinning it the other way in michigan, charles, what do you ke of that? >> and ben makes the great point. the unions feel like...
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. >> union busting is disgusting! (laughter). >> jon: dude, you're from michigan, detroit, "8 mile." you've got to come up with better rhymes that busting-disgusting if you want to win the khraoe climactic rap. you have to put effort into it. (laughter) (cheers and applause) look, you have one job at one factory, when you seize every benefit you could, yo, our palms are sweaty, knees week, arms heavy, working in a factory all day building chevys, like the volt, you plug it in, and then you win -- ecologically, because if it was an actual race you would not -- actually. you've got to dues collect for the unions oro bahts are going to come and take away our jobs or to the chinese kids with the tiny hands to work and go -- ♪ this of ha tunety comes once in a lifetime note? note yo! (cheers and applause) you know what i realized? if i perform my hoff-torah a as bad as that i would owe my relatives money. for more we go to aasif mandvi in michigan and jason jones in indiana. there's not much kpet advantage in doing somet
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on the union level, unions have got to start organizing the unorganized. too many years were spent just focusing on their own numbers. that's why you know this in michigan there's this weird divide between union members and non-union members. the non-union members are making less, but they don't see when the unions do well, they do well. european unions after world war ii, here is what they did differently. they decided not to just work for their own members. they wanted societal change so the reason why you have universal free healthcare throughout all of europe is because the european unions in the 40s said we don't want this just for our members, we want this for everybody. everybody has got to have -- >> jennifer: which is really the history of the u.s. labor movement was too. that's what those laws were in the 20s and 30s to provide universal 40-hour workweek and we don't have child labor laws. that's true. i would say unions have an opportunity globally especially in countries that are now growing, like china to be able to level the playing field a l
on the union level, unions have got to start organizing the unorganized. too many years were spent just focusing on their own numbers. that's why you know this in michigan there's this weird divide between union members and non-union members. the non-union members are making less, but they don't see when the unions do well, they do well. european unions after world war ii, here is what they did differently. they decided not to just work for their own members. they wanted societal change so the...
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a union member and not pay union dues and still get the benefits of the union. now, steve, is she right? >> no, she's wrong. look, i think it is in the first amendment of our constitution says the right of association, right? you have the right to associate with a union if you want to but, right of association also means you have the right not to associate with that entity. this is basically saying every worker makes their own choice. it doesn't say you can't have a union. i want to be very clear about this. when the unions say it is anti-union. it is not. simply says every worker has the choice. i talk to a lot of owners of businesses and ceos of companies, bill the one of the things, i asked them about right to work and what they tell me is, when they're looking where they will open up a new plant or facility, bill, they don't even look at a state, they don't even consider a state if it is not right to work. bill: is that so? that is interesting. matt, give you the last word. what the governor is saying in michigan, it would make unions more responsive to thei
a union member and not pay union dues and still get the benefits of the union. now, steve, is she right? >> no, she's wrong. look, i think it is in the first amendment of our constitution says the right of association, right? you have the right to associate with a union if you want to but, right of association also means you have the right not to associate with that entity. this is basically saying every worker makes their own choice. it doesn't say you can't have a union. i want to be...
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but jonas it right, a lot of tiesike detroit are heavily unionized. they invested heavily in these gold-plated cadillac-like government pensions as the revenues have dropped off and diminishednd detroit is a great example, people leaving the cityow for decades. they find they can't pay these pensions. so in a nutshell,hey mismanaged their money and now they're coming-- don't blame the council woman they did help to get president obama elected. look, we did youolid and unfortunately it's not the right way to go, i d't think anyone wants to bail out detroit for mismanagement. >> brenda: julian, what say you. >> i think we have to define the terms, quid pro quo and bailout are unfortunate terms. i think that jas made the rit point. you have to separate long-term and short-term issues. long-term, the same way that the government reformed entitlement, the state has to reform pension programs. and many states and governments are doing that. in the short-term, however, it's another question when you're in an economically very difficult time, if the states an
but jonas it right, a lot of tiesike detroit are heavily unionized. they invested heavily in these gold-plated cadillac-like government pensions as the revenues have dropped off and diminishednd detroit is a great example, people leaving the cityow for decades. they find they can't pay these pensions. so in a nutshell,hey mismanaged their money and now they're coming-- don't blame the council woman they did help to get president obama elected. look, we did youolid and unfortunately it's not the...
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in a good union maybe 60%, 70% of the workers will voluntarily give dues to the union. that's in a union shop where they're very active. that's in most right-to-work states. so i think what you're going to see in michigan as you look at the uaw it has 150,000 members in michigan. i think they're going to lose about 50,000 members. i mean my best-case scenario, what that translates to is a loss of $30 to $40 million a year in dus revenue. it hurts the ability of the uaw to do things and is losing $30 to $40 million they'll be spending tens of millions to refill this later. >> eliot: one of the things that mystified me about the bill signed into law today why are cops and firefighters excluded. why is this good for workers? did he carve out the two unions that are friendlier to the republican party than any other? >> yeah, i mean cops and firefighters unions tend to be friendlier to the republican party. the police union i endorsed bush several times. cops and firefighters tend to be friendlier to republicans although many of them are solid democrats as well. so i think t
in a good union maybe 60%, 70% of the workers will voluntarily give dues to the union. that's in a union shop where they're very active. that's in most right-to-work states. so i think what you're going to see in michigan as you look at the uaw it has 150,000 members in michigan. i think they're going to lose about 50,000 members. i mean my best-case scenario, what that translates to is a loss of $30 to $40 million a year in dus revenue. it hurts the ability of the uaw to do things and is...
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when the bill becomes law, unions will have the right to make their case. now workers will have the right to make their decision. >> can i switch gears briefly on the question of detroit city, its terrible finances, the likelihood that it's going into bankruptcy, some of the local politicians asked president obama to bail out detroit city. do you think a bail out like that's coming? >> i think we need detroit to accept responsibility. we need a healthy detroit. in michigan we want a healthy detroit. we need detroiters to accept responsibility. they are free to ask the president for more money. i can tell you there will not be more money coming from lansing. we need to get detroit fixed and move forward together. >> apparently mayor dave bing, the former basketball great and a good businessman before he was mayor says, and i will quote -- he blames the culture of victimization and entitlement for detroit's woes. i can write that large for the entire usa budget deficit but let's stick to detroit. is the mayor correct? >> i will leave mayor bing to stand for h
when the bill becomes law, unions will have the right to make their case. now workers will have the right to make their decision. >> can i switch gears briefly on the question of detroit city, its terrible finances, the likelihood that it's going into bankruptcy, some of the local politicians asked president obama to bail out detroit city. do you think a bail out like that's coming? >> i think we need detroit to accept responsibility. we need a healthy detroit. in michigan we want a...
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so, this creates an environment where people can say, they are choosing to join a union because the unions put a value proposition to make it worthwhile and if they are not providing value someone should be forced to choose so i view this as pro worker legislation. >>neil: governor, this woman's remarks went viral soon after she said them, a council woman in detroit talking about the post obama election envice president, i am sure you are familiar, but if you are not, please respond to this. >> after the election of jimmy carter, we had young and he went to washington, dc and he came back home with some bacon. young did. that is what you do. that is what you do. our people in an overwhelmingly matter supported the re-election of this president and there ought be to a quid pro quo and we ought to exercise leadership on that. not just that, but why not? >>neil: what do you thing 1/2? >>guest: it is unfortunate. that is one council woman's comments. a challenge in detroit the city council and the mayor have not been on the same page. they are running out of time. they have been in a financial
so, this creates an environment where people can say, they are choosing to join a union because the unions put a value proposition to make it worthwhile and if they are not providing value someone should be forced to choose so i view this as pro worker legislation. >>neil: governor, this woman's remarks went viral soon after she said them, a council woman in detroit talking about the post obama election envice president, i am sure you are familiar, but if you are not, please respond to...
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every politician in new york, the unions, the tanks, everybody did what they swore they would not do. so whether the discipline comes from laws or the ability of somebody else to take something away if you do not behave in a responsible and prudent fashion, these problems and dollars we are talking about is sufficient consequence to require careful examination of ways to keep this society together. >> let me interrupt you right there so we can get a chance to bring everybody in. i wanted -- want to thank everyone for their remarks. in the opening remarks, i want to throw a few questions to you. in particular, given the, about the match and how it varies. would you describe on the health care fund is innovative. the problems on the federal level for finding ways to deliver health care. one of those approaches that is talked about a 10th of the affordable care act is the authority to experiment with episodic payment spiritous a to a physician you do not get paid more by doing more. you'll get paid for treating the patients in a way that patient needs to be treated. you are doing that. i
every politician in new york, the unions, the tanks, everybody did what they swore they would not do. so whether the discipline comes from laws or the ability of somebody else to take something away if you do not behave in a responsible and prudent fashion, these problems and dollars we are talking about is sufficient consequence to require careful examination of ways to keep this society together. >> let me interrupt you right there so we can get a chance to bring everybody in. i wanted...
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but they can choose to form a union or not form a union. this says even once there is a union like at an auto plant, for example? right? that you could have people who work there opt out of the union, and they still get all of the benefits and all of the protection that the union has fought for and won for its members. right? >> that's correct. by law. >> a bunch of free loaders? >> the koch brothers have been on the capitol lawn here for the last week with their, i think it's freedom to choose signs. what this is a freedom to freeload is all this bill is about. unions. anyone working in michigan has never been required to join a union. you can opt out. you can pay your agency 15, which only covers that part of the association's cost of bargaining the contract, represent can non-members and those things that we have to provide. >> uh-huh. >> and they've always had that right. members have always had the right in michigan if they didn't like the union they were in they could switch, join another union or just have no union at all. >> that's
but they can choose to form a union or not form a union. this says even once there is a union like at an auto plant, for example? right? that you could have people who work there opt out of the union, and they still get all of the benefits and all of the protection that the union has fought for and won for its members. right? >> that's correct. by law. >> a bunch of free loaders? >> the koch brothers have been on the capitol lawn here for the last week with their, i think it's...
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this is pure and simple union busting. these right to work laws have already had serious impacts across the country. wages for all workers, unionized and otherwise have decreased an average of $1,500 a year and workers are less likely to get health insurance or pensions. during the campaign any president voiced strong support the unions but as we know campaigning a very different from governing. things didn't look too promising this morning. so let's let the president speak for himself on this one. here he is in red ford, michigan late this afternoon. >> obama: what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your rights to bargain for better wages. these so-called right to work laws have everything to do with politics. >> nice work mr. president, reelection beginning to look good on you. and michigan's workers are forging ahead. tomorrow thousands of protesters are set to desecond on the capitol of lancing. two school districts have canceled classes because of these protests. today we got a preview. members of the nurse's union
this is pure and simple union busting. these right to work laws have already had serious impacts across the country. wages for all workers, unionized and otherwise have decreased an average of $1,500 a year and workers are less likely to get health insurance or pensions. during the campaign any president voiced strong support the unions but as we know campaigning a very different from governing. things didn't look too promising this morning. so let's let the president speak for himself on this...
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right to work does not ban unions. it makes them stronger because now the union has to be accountable to their members and cannot take them for granted. gerri: i am sure many union members agree with you. we need some control and level playing field for workers. thank you for coming on. if you get some kind of movement on that night, please let us know. we would love to report it. thank you for coming on and showing us these numbers. it's just amazing. thank you. joining me now, is jerry brown. welcome to the show. it is great to have you. we played this very controversial soundbite from this woman who said it should be quid pro quo for detroit. do you agree? >> no, i do not agree. i can look out my window and see general motors and see what happened with the bankruptcy when the federal government got involved. the cfo lost their jobs from the board of directors lost their jobs, and there are restrictions to the money coming in. so the federal government. the city of detroit knows what the problems are. the question is
right to work does not ban unions. it makes them stronger because now the union has to be accountable to their members and cannot take them for granted. gerri: i am sure many union members agree with you. we need some control and level playing field for workers. thank you for coming on. if you get some kind of movement on that night, please let us know. we would love to report it. thank you for coming on and showing us these numbers. it's just amazing. thank you. joining me now, is jerry brown....
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enforced union states down 3.4%. that is a significant statement when it comes to right-to-work states in this country. >> it sure is. the real bottom line to it is people are voting with their feet. since 1990s -- since 1990 every time we've reapportioned the united states house of representatives, the right-to-work states have gained eight to nine representatives while the forced unionism states have lost eight to nine. the difference since 1990 has been 25 seats going from the forced unionism states to the right-to-work states. people are voting with their feet. people don't want to be forced into unionism, they don't want to have a pay a union to keep their jobs. lou: and the fact of the matter is that a heritage study shows a quarter of union members would stop paying dues if they could. they're being begin thaa opportunity under legislation. as we reported, 22 states considering it this year, four of them actually got it done including now most recently, of course, the state of michigan. how powerful is this mo
enforced union states down 3.4%. that is a significant statement when it comes to right-to-work states in this country. >> it sure is. the real bottom line to it is people are voting with their feet. since 1990s -- since 1990 every time we've reapportioned the united states house of representatives, the right-to-work states have gained eight to nine representatives while the forced unionism states have lost eight to nine. the difference since 1990 has been 25 seats going from the forced...
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back was broken by a bunch of thug cops who hated unions. now, all i want to say to those guys there are a lot of you out there who have done remarkable work for the workers in the country. do not take what you heard here. it's not people who understand all your history. there is no reason to have to. >> greg: you can bring that up to negate any criticism of the union to commit violence against innocent people. well done. >> eric: we have to go. that is if it for "the five." thank you for watching. >> dana: on that note. >> greg: unbelievable. >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. this is a fox news alert. tonight, michigan, the home of the american automobile industry, state that has been dominated by big labor unions, is now a right to work state. michigan's republican governor has just signed a bill in to law ending union ability to force workers to pay dues. february they are not in the union. democrats are predicting a warning of blood in the streets. here is what the governor said moments ago about why he supported the legislation. >>
back was broken by a bunch of thug cops who hated unions. now, all i want to say to those guys there are a lot of you out there who have done remarkable work for the workers in the country. do not take what you heard here. it's not people who understand all your history. there is no reason to have to. >> greg: you can bring that up to negate any criticism of the union to commit violence against innocent people. well done. >> eric: we have to go. that is if it for "the...
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i don't view it as anti-union. they are more proactive to presenting it to workers and say they should want to join it be part of it. this is first and foremost about worker choice. and second thing it is about economic development. we've watched what has gone on in indiana since they passed similar legislation and they have seen a significant increase in the numbers of companies talking about thousands of jobs to their state. first about workers choice but more about more and better jobs for our people. it's positive legislation for the state. >> it was not parts of your original aany da and it's being done in the lame duck. i suppose that's an issue that -- that the people are asking for, why wasn't it part of your original agenda and why did you wait for the lame duck? >> if you think about it, over 80% of workers don't have this issue. they aren't unionized so it applies in michigan to about 17.5% of our workforce. that's significant but most people don't have it as an issue. if you look where michigan was at,
i don't view it as anti-union. they are more proactive to presenting it to workers and say they should want to join it be part of it. this is first and foremost about worker choice. and second thing it is about economic development. we've watched what has gone on in indiana since they passed similar legislation and they have seen a significant increase in the numbers of companies talking about thousands of jobs to their state. first about workers choice but more about more and better jobs for...
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this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to recognize that unions could be weaker but why would they be weaker? it's because they are not showing value to the workers. this is very much about two there are two reasons to do this. the first one is to be pro-worker. this is about freedom to choose. workers should have the option if they are seeing value, they should be excited to join a union and they should join. if they see no value why should they put financial resources to do something that has no value to them. that's a big part of it. standing up for workers. the second piece and to your point specifically, it's about more and better jobs for michigan. just look at indiana that di
this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to recognize that unions could be...
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the bill strips unions of power in the state. tomorrow protesters are planning to invade the state capital in lansing. that's where we find dave spencer with an update. dave? >> state police are estimating 10,000 protesters when the sun comes up. they've closed streets out around the capitol, restricting park around here. some of the schools in metro detroit will be closing so that teachers representing the teacher union will have a chance to come down to lansing to be one of those 10,000 having their voices heard. what the right to work bill will do will essentially make it an option for an employee to join a union and still get those benefits. supporters say that will be good for michigan, bringing in business, while opponents say while it may bring in business employee wages will be brought down due to collective bargaining. this controversy started when the governor, governor rick snyder, said for a bill comes across his desk, he will sign it. that prompted the house and senate to begin their legislation, bringing out protest
the bill strips unions of power in the state. tomorrow protesters are planning to invade the state capital in lansing. that's where we find dave spencer with an update. dave? >> state police are estimating 10,000 protesters when the sun comes up. they've closed streets out around the capitol, restricting park around here. some of the schools in metro detroit will be closing so that teachers representing the teacher union will have a chance to come down to lansing to be one of those 10,000...
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the unions. why's the president playing backseat driver? >>> i'm steve kornacki. there's outrage maybe even criminal charges coming in that death of the nurse in england. wait a minute. are we being too hard on the pranksters? >> i'm krystal ball. in to the holiday spiritual. our friend is back at the table with tips to dare we say it enjoy the season? >>> all and that a federal case of it. why when it comes to gay marriage the train can't be stop. neither can we. it's "the cycle" and it's monday, december 10th. >>> it's monday, fun day here at "the cycle." let's get the party started. where will it land today? fiscal cliff? huh. so much for fun. well you know what? we at "the cycle" can make it fun. look at this. the president living it up in motown last hour calling on republicans to stop being party poopers. >> i believe america only succeeds and thrives when we've got a strong and growing middle class. i want us to bring down our deficits but i want to do it in a balanced, responsible way. and i want to reward -- i want a tax code that rewards businesses and m
the unions. why's the president playing backseat driver? >>> i'm steve kornacki. there's outrage maybe even criminal charges coming in that death of the nurse in england. wait a minute. are we being too hard on the pranksters? >> i'm krystal ball. in to the holiday spiritual. our friend is back at the table with tips to dare we say it enjoy the season? >>> all and that a federal case of it. why when it comes to gay marriage the train can't be stop. neither can we. it's...
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because of the union contract. only because of the union contracts. >> bob: c'mon, bob. you can find a video like this. >> bob: i can find it in every right to work state in the south lunch break. >> eric: they'd get fired. >> kimberly: they're not from texas. >> bob: they don't get fired in the south? >> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because they don't put in the union political fund. >> dana: 24 states have lower unemployment rate and other states are not right to work, while shouldn't michigan, at least they have a democratic process. it's passed. the governor has been thoughtful about it. people, majority of people support it. why not let them try something that would alter history? >> kimberly: why not? >> bob: why not bad handguns in countries that don't have murder. here we ban them and it -- >> greg: the funny thing is we talk about greece, but befo
because of the union contract. only because of the union contracts. >> bob: c'mon, bob. you can find a video like this. >> bob: i can find it in every right to work state in the south lunch break. >> eric: they'd get fired. >> kimberly: they're not from texas. >> bob: they don't get fired in the south? >> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means...
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megyn: that was part of a nearly eight minute video from the california teachers union. suggesting that the rich point a finger at everyone else when they are to blame for all the problems. but it is another part of the video that has some questioning, even labeling it as vile and vicious. trace gallagher has more from our west coast newsroom. reporter: the video begins with once upon a time and ends with happily ever after. in between, about seven minutes and 35 seconds, attacking the rich, calling them greedy money loving wires that elected all the politicians and do not pay their fair share of taxes. in fact, the only reason they are rich, says the video, is because of tax cuts and loopholes and tax evasions. the theme is that the rich are bad. they are the villains. at one point, the rich actually urinate on the poor. at one point, that is what happens. but then we go on, the video put out by the california's teacher association, he is the one that will waste the eight minute video. it claims that the rich are so used to being rich that when the government set up a s
megyn: that was part of a nearly eight minute video from the california teachers union. suggesting that the rich point a finger at everyone else when they are to blame for all the problems. but it is another part of the video that has some questioning, even labeling it as vile and vicious. trace gallagher has more from our west coast newsroom. reporter: the video begins with once upon a time and ends with happily ever after. in between, about seven minutes and 35 seconds, attacking the rich,...
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what are they doing, going after labor unions. people forget, all the things we take for granted, whether 2 will be sick leave, available indication days, five-day work week, 40-hour week, it's all because of fights the labor unions did to help the middle class and help working families be competitive in this marketplace. >> do you see any states that might be at risk here? >> do i think what? >> do you see any states that are at risk next? >> oh, yeah, i think the republican party is going to spend a lot of time trying to do this because it's unfortunate because what the republican party ought to be doing is how to change the message to talk to middle class families. the nbc/"wall street journal" poll this morning said republic people view republicans as being too rich. it should be how do they expand the pie and get more people in the party than how to exclude people. >> in other states, john, the backlash it could be wisconsin-like. are republicans ready for this possibility? >> well, i think what republicans are trying to do,
what are they doing, going after labor unions. people forget, all the things we take for granted, whether 2 will be sick leave, available indication days, five-day work week, 40-hour week, it's all because of fights the labor unions did to help the middle class and help working families be competitive in this marketplace. >> do you see any states that might be at risk here? >> do i think what? >> do you see any states that are at risk next? >> oh, yeah, i think the...
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yes so so you're actually voting to have union representation and this is an existing union not a not a brand new one or is it a brand new in the is an existing is it is communion and. you get to have a democracy in the workplace that's a pretty impressive thing do you think that most of the people who are out on the streets today are looking for you know just a better paycheck or that they would like to be members of unions as well. you know they also want to be represented by the union. because. because. sometimes in workplaces. sometimes manager the bullets might suspect you just because you know. to stand up. and. so it's a matter of having having a voice in the workplace and being able to to work and behave with integrity and know that you're not going to be capriciously fired it makes a lot of sense compas thank you so much for being with us tonight. great to have you on the program to get involved in the fight for higher wages and better working conditions go to one of these classes or both of them united n.y. dot org as in new york united in why dot org and davide divvied up f
yes so so you're actually voting to have union representation and this is an existing union not a not a brand new one or is it a brand new in the is an existing is it is communion and. you get to have a democracy in the workplace that's a pretty impressive thing do you think that most of the people who are out on the streets today are looking for you know just a better paycheck or that they would like to be members of unions as well. you know they also want to be represented by the union....
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the bill has caused quite an uproar with union workers who say union rights are now at risk. ballet between labor and business could hit the auto industry especially hard. the governor says the bill promotes work equality. >>> mohammed morsi said he would not tolerate anyone trying to overthrow what he calls his legitimate government but the protestors say they'll continue. seven people are dead after violent clash this is week. >>> and historic visit by the leader of hamas to gaza tbeen e years. his party has been in control of the gaza strip for five years and he is arriving to mark the 25th anniversary of hamas' founding. >>> software mowing up john mcafee is back in jill after a brief trip to the hospital. he told the associated press he suffered chest pains but didn't believe he had a heart attack. this happened yesterday just hours after guatemalan officials rejected his bid for asylum. he was arrested for illegally entering the country on wednesday after weeks in hiding. he is a person of interest in the november killing of his american neighbor in belize. >>> a messag
the bill has caused quite an uproar with union workers who say union rights are now at risk. ballet between labor and business could hit the auto industry especially hard. the governor says the bill promotes work equality. >>> mohammed morsi said he would not tolerate anyone trying to overthrow what he calls his legitimate government but the protestors say they'll continue. seven people are dead after violent clash this is week. >>> and historic visit by the leader of hamas to...
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michigan is a heavily unionized state so why would it be going right to work. there's enormous downward pressure on wages on american companies around the world that can make things cheaper elsewhere than here and our wages are uncompetitive in a lot of ways. in effect what people in michigan have to decide, do you want fewer jobs at higher wages or lower jomore jobs at lower w they have decided they want more jobs. >> you look at michigan and detroit, that's a pretty easy answer. >> the unemployment rate. >> the unemployment rate is horrible. detroit in 1960, i think, was one of the wealth nest city if not the wealthiest city in america and now one of the poorest. >> the fourth largest. >> this is a done deal, going through the house today, to a republican governor and says he will sign it. >> it's symbolic of two things, one, the politics of it all, what we've seen in wisconsin and elsewhere and the unpopularity of unions these days and secondly an economic phenomenon, basically a statement we want jobs and we're willing to take them, even if it means lower w
michigan is a heavily unionized state so why would it be going right to work. there's enormous downward pressure on wages on american companies around the world that can make things cheaper elsewhere than here and our wages are uncompetitive in a lot of ways. in effect what people in michigan have to decide, do you want fewer jobs at higher wages or lower jomore jobs at lower w they have decided they want more jobs. >> you look at michigan and detroit, that's a pretty easy answer....
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that was about the relationship between employers and unions. this has nothing to do with that. right-to-work is about the relationship between the union and workers, and this is about being co-workers, giving workers the choice. if anything, this should encourage unions to be more responsive to workers in terms of saying they need to show a value proposition of why they're a great place to join. >> now to the numbers. michigan has the fifth highest percentage of unionized workers at more than 17%, but it's hardly alone attacking the right-to-work laws. 23 other states have already done the same. >>> now developing overseas, north korea has defied international warnings by firing another long-range rocket, the second such launch under new leader kim jong-un. the surprise launch happened last night after north korea indicated it was having technical problems that could take weeks to resolve. fooled us. korea state tv claims the launch was successful, delivering a "peaceful satellite" in orbit. however, the u.s. and south korea believe it was another attempt by the north koreans t
that was about the relationship between employers and unions. this has nothing to do with that. right-to-work is about the relationship between the union and workers, and this is about being co-workers, giving workers the choice. if anything, this should encourage unions to be more responsive to workers in terms of saying they need to show a value proposition of why they're a great place to join. >> now to the numbers. michigan has the fifth highest percentage of unionized workers at more...
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but the folks on the outside of unions. so we're going to fight this to the very end. and we're going to not let governor snyder get any rest until we return the working people back their rights that they had before governor snyder signed this. >> the gop's war on workers, we hear the language very similar to alec when we see michigan's proposed right to work billing mirror the word for word the detroit free press says. we know there's koch brother moneys. do you expect people around the country now to rally in michigan to possibly deal with a recall? or whatever options are available that congressman peters referred to? >> i think so. i think we've got to hold these guys accountable. this guy won't answer my phone call. he'll ignore 13,000 people at the capitol this morning. but you know whose call he will answer? the koch brothers. and that's wrong. maybe we lost this today, but this fight is not over. >> congressman peters -- congressman peters, explain to the people watching around the country what happened. a lot of pe
but the folks on the outside of unions. so we're going to fight this to the very end. and we're going to not let governor snyder get any rest until we return the working people back their rights that they had before governor snyder signed this. >> the gop's war on workers, we hear the language very similar to alec when we see michigan's proposed right to work billing mirror the word for word the detroit free press says. we know there's koch brother moneys. do you expect people around the...
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thanks to a union-backed arbitrator. as you know, chrysler borrowed more than $11 billion as part of the auto industry bailout. thats what your t dollars are spent on. w is it possible these guys are back on the job? joining me author of the state of the union, phil dine. thanks for coming back on. let's get right to it. how is it possible? >> good to be with you, melissa. who knows. this is, first of all this is not a union-backed artrator. what this is, is a union and a cmpany-backed arbitration process. thee contrt calls for a certain process just like our legal system calls for jury trials. we may or may not like the outcome in any one trial or any one grievance process but neither you nor i heard the evidence. meli well, i mean, i saw the reporte and read the report who has been coving this story and he says that% they went into arbitration and had a lot t do, if you really drill down on statements -- >> i just lost you, melissa. melissa: oh my goodness. the gremlins are in the system toile. phil, can you hear m >>
thanks to a union-backed arbitrator. as you know, chrysler borrowed more than $11 billion as part of the auto industry bailout. thats what your t dollars are spent on. w is it possible these guys are back on the job? joining me author of the state of the union, phil dine. thanks for coming back on. let's get right to it. how is it possible? >> good to be with you, melissa. who knows. this is, first of all this is not a union-backed artrator. what this is, is a union and a cmpany-backed...
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this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to recognize that unions could be weaker but why would they be weaker? it's because they are not showing value to the workers. this is very much about two there are two reasons to do this. the first one is to be pro-worker. this is about freedom to choose. workers should have the option if they are seeing value, they should be excited to join a union and they should join. if they see no value why should they put financial resources to do something that has no value to them. that's a big part of it. standing up for workers. the second piece and to your point specifically, it's about more and better jobs for michigan. just look at indiana that di
this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to recognize that unions could be...